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dwarf angels

Poll: good or bad (23 member(s) have cast votes)

yeh or nay

  1. yes, its been a great addition (16 votes [69.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.57%

  2. no, nothing but trouble (7 votes [30.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.43%

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#1 User is offline   ben 

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 05:41 PM

just a rough guide on success. dosnt matter what species you have
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#2 User is offline   Mike 

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 05:51 PM

Flame and coral beauty both good as gold when first introduced then they got a taste for LPS (Trachy's, Scoly's) and SPS - mainly Acropora Millepora.

I would stick with Genicanthus - either the bellus or watanabei if I ever stock dwarf angels again.
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#3 User is offline   wayne g 

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 06:39 PM

coral beauty ben
i did vote yes great addition but that was in my system......i have heard of a lot of horror tales from others.
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Posted 16 February 2008 - 08:21 PM

Only ever kept the Flame angel it was great and never touched anything .. The tank was softs only
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Posted 16 February 2008 - 10:05 PM

I had a golden angel, absolutely stunning little guy, and a model citizen with softies, my lps and my montis, then i added a trac one day and almost instantly he started nibbling.

It was a real shame, as i'd have loved to move him across into my new tank, and would still love another one or possibly a potters or venusta, but i couldn't just sit back and watch corals being butchered.

I also had a regal angel who was my all time favourite fish, i had him eating everything including flake, and he never so much as looked at a coral. He had such character too. But i'm guessing that you're looking at options for the 3 footer huh.

Couldn't really vote on this one, as it'd be untrue to say that dwarfs are completely safe, and can't say they've been nothing but grief because nibbling on just one coral isn't bad going.
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Posted 16 February 2008 - 10:42 PM

Bi-color angel in my tank full of sps, zoas and a few lps. Never touched them, unlike the tangs.

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 11:12 PM

forgot to mention ben my tank was sps lps heavy....you prob' knew that anyhow.

you know you want a bellus mate!
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 12:28 AM

Good one this ben, we used to stock dwarf angels and have to say that i like them .Great colours and small size should make them perfect for tank life .First its fair to say that alot of the reef fish that should be safe with corals can for no reason start to eat your best coral ,have had this happen a few times myself :) .Dwarfs are often fine in coral tanks but miss a feed here and there and problems can start .
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 01:49 PM

Have you had a look at www.centropyge.net ben? I think the dietry information is a little biased, and perhaps doesn't tell the whole truth, but there's some useful info there and if nothing else is a good place to look if you're into the dwarf angel species.
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 03:38 PM

thanks for that link. ill have a look. i do like them a lot but every one ive had has been a pain. im just tempted again as my new tank wont be suitable for a tang. mabye a coral beauty as they seem to be lower risk, or a Genicanthus sp
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 03:57 PM

No worries m8. All you can do is give one a try. I think i'm gonna give a potters a go myself at some point.
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 04:22 PM

Dunno if it helped or not, but the Bi-Color I got had been at Maidenhead for 3 or 4 weeks, now whether that affected it's feeding habits or not I don't know. It appears to spend just as much time picking algae off the glass and rocks as the Tangs do.

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Posted 08 May 2008 - 11:32 PM

I have to say that i think the biggest role in coral nipping, as jason says is in diet. Ive actually had loads of dwarf angels in different situations with different corals both in my work and at home and the only two i havent cracked and managed to either totally avoid coral nipping or overt it after a spell are lemonpeels and many bandeds. keep them fat, full of vitamins, give them a sponge and alternative grazing then they shouldnt have a problem. My vote *and this is barring the two species ive mentioned and quite possibly all the paracentropyge angels, ie venusta, boyleyi.... is for a good addition

As an aside diet appears certainly to be the determining factor with coral eating regal angels. sometimes that collspongia we are all to qick to destroy can come in handy!!!!

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Posted 09 May 2008 - 06:16 AM

i had a bellus great fish all though not garunteed to be totally reef safe , i took mine out as i had a problem with zoo's , individual polyp's were floating round the tank so i took the fish out, then at the same sametime i found i had a sea spiders problem , so looking back i dont no if it was just the spiders or a combination of the both , i never saw him have a go at the corals, i would stay away from the lamark's though mate as these can get big
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 06:41 AM

Had a flame who was fine for about 18 months, didn't touch a thing, then one day he started. He would just swim along nipping every single LPS in the tank, then head back the other way and do the same. Food remained constant. So he was donated to a Softy only tank.

Have now got another flame, the owner says he never touched a thing, including his clams, so I'm taking the chance. If I see him nip, he'll be finding a new home.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 08:26 AM

My regal angel was my favourite fish and was as good as gold for around 12 - 18 months, then when i was on my honeymoon i made sure the feeding was cut back slightly to not cause any water issue and the regal was transformed into a coral eater!

I was totally gutted!
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 09:24 AM

I personally don't run the risk tangs are just as beautiful but i have a random tang that eats zoo's but only small ones. But if i were to add a small angel it would be Genicanthus angels as they are mostly zoo plankton feeders and i know many people that have had them in mixed reefs.
Genicanthus bellus,Genicanthus lamarck, Genicanthus melanospilus or swallow tail. The good thing about them is they can be kept in pairs male and female.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:12 AM

My flame angel fed on my open brain coral. So I took it out. I wont risk my corals by adding angels any more.
In the picture that is how I cought it with difficulty.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:02 PM

Anyone had experience with a rusty angel in a reef tank?
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 02:09 PM

Ferrugata is about flame angel level of safety, keep fully on top of it with very regular small feeds, it will probably be ok!

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