I know this is a subject that is chatted about a lot on forums but how clean is to clean when it comes to water in a reef tank .
I know its not just how polished the water is but how fast you have done it or made changes.Maybe its an idea to add phosphate killer in smaller amounts rather than adding the recommended amount it says on the tub in one go .
This topic has a few posts but points out what can happen (He was lucky).
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...hreadid=1550639
Maybe its the iron in the Phosphate killer he is using in the reactor as Iron does carry some bearing as the the way Zooanthelles react as to the algas in a sump
With hardware like big skimmers phosphate killers good filters Ozone and so on we have readily available on the market these days do you think we go overboard.Or should we carry on going overboard with polishing the water and feed more or would this also pose problems with detritus buildup over a period of time
Jas
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Water to clean to fast
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:29 PM
I turned off my phos reactor over 2 months ago after speaking to Linds one day, sps colours are certainly more vibrant ( i had put this down to tank maturing and adding calcium reactor, not so sure now) and no P04 showing on salifert test.
Got loads of chaeto in sump and fuge tho
Got loads of chaeto in sump and fuge tho
#3
Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:43 PM
dave14, on Jan 13 2009, 05:29 PM, said:
I turned off my phos reactor over 2 months ago after speaking to Linds one day, sps colours are certainly more vibrant ( i had put this down to tank maturing and adding calcium reactor, not so sure now) and no P04 showing on salifert test.
Got loads of chaeto in sump and fuge tho
Got loads of chaeto in sump and fuge tho
Same here, I took out my PO4 remover and Carbon about 4 months ago. I think skimming with ozone is enough once a system starts to mature, I am sure a problem I had with RTN and colour fade with some of my SPS was down to over use of PO4 remover, Carbon and skimming.
#4
Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:57 PM
i think every tank is too different to say if we over filter the water or not. each tank has different stock , filter media and feedings, ect
so, imo, tank owners need to make their own mind up about it depending on their set ups
so, imo, tank owners need to make their own mind up about it depending on their set ups
#5
Posted 13 January 2009 - 08:06 PM
I think we have a long way to go if your trying to get your water crystal clear. If you have ever been to a real reef the first thing you notice is how clear the water is. Its like you can see twice as far as normal and you are floating in air when your in the water. I don't reckon you will be able to get the same look in a tank. I have tried is everything skimmer, ozone, different lighting mixing spectrum's as well as adding blues, phosphate remover, refugiums and filter floss. Nothing yet i have tried has come close yet. My new tank designs should be the best yet for trapping detritus and filtering the water and skimmer loads with ozone but i don't think i will get the diamond white crystal look. But i do think that more chemistry awareness with help many people in the future
Life is to short for frags
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 08:12 PM
i have to run the phos remover otherwise i get a bit of cyano problem , when i replace the rowaphos i make sure for the first week the reactor is run very slowly, i feel this helps and guards against rtn touch wood
#7
Posted 13 January 2009 - 08:20 PM
I have to agree with Mark aka crabbit.
I don't think a tank can be overskimmed within reason, but removing of elements too quickly good and bad can now be done and thats not a good thing!
I don't think a tank can be overskimmed within reason, but removing of elements too quickly good and bad can now be done and thats not a good thing!
A useful link for all http://www.wax32.com/videos/borneman.wmv
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