Posted 11 November 2009 - 09:49 PM
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TANK 48 x 24 x 24
NO LIVE ROCK WHATSOEVER
2 x Tunze Nano
48 x 18 x 17.5 SUMP
NO LIVE ROCK IN HERE EITHER!
SCHURAN JETSKIM 150
SCHURAN JETSTREAM 1 Ca REACTOR
"GYRACTOR" running "BIO PEARLS"
EHEIM 1262 RETURN PUMP
FISH AND CORALS SUPPLIED BY
Posted 11 November 2009 - 10:43 PM
Well I am one of those people with no posts who was bidding. The frag night is advertised elsewhere and this is how I found International Reefers. Just because I am new does not mean I won't contribute. Until yesterday I did not know this forum existed.
Welcome! I hope we have'nt put you off! lol The forum is a really friendly place.
I'm still classed as a new member but my Hubby has been on here for longer, just got my own account recently!
You wont be dissapointed with your purchases from last night. Cant wait to pick ours up!
Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:05 AM
Let the night grow guys and out of 5 members if we get 1 that posts regular and he spreads the word this 1 member will end up as 10 members who post regular .
Also there are members on all forums that just don't like to post but read instead ,we see this a lot during the day as there sign in read for a while and go again.Some don't sign in and there show as guests but as a pattern shows some start to post and become regular posters.
For me i think leave as is ,steady growth makes for good foundations
Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:16 AM
its not about having the most members but having a forum where some good info can be found. we shouldnt force people to post or they wont visit at all.
Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:27 AM
IR can be a little daunting at first because of the depth of knowledge that exists here and the closeness of its members.. For a newbie, it may require a deep intake of breath to make that first post, which is a shame as its a very friendly and helpful forum.
Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:51 AM
This reminds me of a post a while back regarding sponsors post counts ,not just posts of we have this and that in stock but posts asking and answering questions about the hobby .
I know some of the Mods are thinking of having a shake down in the mods section regarding this matter .Sponsorship is free so to give a little back would be great
Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:13 AM
Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:16 PM
I agree with Quigs,
Also, how random is the random selection of winners?
I bid on 5 pieces, won 0 = 0%
Another member bid on 34 and won 28 = 82%+
Seems his random odds are a damn site better than mine
I've checked out the data as best I can, it's all there in the fragnight thread, and I can only find three bids for you, photos 16, 25 & 27, not five.
Of those three bids...
Photo: 16, available: 3, bidders: 11
Photo: 25, available: 3, bidders: 7
Photo: 27, available: 4, bidders: 21
As you can see, with photos 16 and 27 your odds were pretty long anyhow.
You weren't the unluckiest on the night by a long shot, the unluckiest member lost out fourteen times, but they still won four frags. Thats something like a 20% win rate.
Seven members didn't win anything all evening, but between them they only placed 15 bids on a night which had over 380 bids in total. I'm not sure how many people were online throughout the night, tho I did see it at 49 members, not including guests, at one point. Of all these, only thirty nine members placed any bids.
The member who won twenty seven frags actually bid on thirty nine, so lost out on nearly a third of his bids. They were not the luckiest of the night, that went to a member who had an 80% win rate.
Roughly speaking, the average 'win rate' works out at 36%, twenty three members got a better rate than that, a quarter of those who took part had a win rate of 50% or more with more than half seeing at least a 40% win rate.
Even coming into the shop on the night doesn't guarantee you will get a piece, they were often getting dealt with online before even being mentioned in the shop.
Whats the saying, "You've got to be in it to win it". OK, so I'm not saying you should bid on "any" frag just for the chance of winning something, but that's the chance you take and should be viewed as all part of the fun.
If there is something you are particularly after then perhaps you would be better persuing that outside of the fragnight.
Ultimately as the fragnights gain in popularity, the win-rate reduces as the number of participants increases. I'm not quite sure how to handle this, pre-registration, limited numbers, minimum post count, maximum number of wins, all have their pitfalls. It definitely needs consideration, but has to be thought thru carefully.
Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:41 PM
I'm not really complaining, I was doing like you said and being selective, there were 5 pieces where I clicked bid now, not sure why only 3 registered? I could have bid on more but didn't want to take a piece someone else loved when I thought it was just OK for the look i'm after
Check out www.Reefpark.net if you have a minute
Posted 12 November 2009 - 01:52 PM
Posted 12 November 2009 - 02:12 PM
I had a guy pm me who won only 1 frag and gave a massive thumbs up ,,loved the night had a good chat with others and was a very good evening with a can of beer sitting next to the comp
My tip ,,enjoy it for what it is
Posted 12 November 2009 - 02:12 PM
Lets say for instance that you have 5 chances to win to start with, and each time you win, you reduce your chances by one, so, you go from 5 to 4,3,2,1. This would give those wishing to buy less frags, a higher chance of winning against the bulk buyers.
Posted 12 November 2009 - 02:35 PM
Posted 12 November 2009 - 02:57 PM
Will certainly be joining again. With all that in mind I think it is fine as is, keep up the good work.
(God that sounds sad, enjoying cooking dinner while watching a PC and bidding on coral!!!!!!!!!!!! note to self, get out more!)
Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:03 PM
Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:33 PM
Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:59 PM
Frag night is a lotto the same as our photo shoots with the frag night its down to the program to choose the winning bids and the stock shoot is down to being online in time.
I know Chris has put a lot of time in on the frag night program to make fair on all .We used to run it first come first gets like our shoots but due to some guys having a faster Internet connection Chris re designed the program to do random picks
Thanks for the business and kind words Kenny
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