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Help please with ich on tangs

#1 User is offline   Big English 

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 07:18 PM

Hi All,

As topic title i need some advice if poss. I am treating 2 orange shoulder tangs and a regal in a QT Tank at the moment with Cuprazin first time i have used it, I have done 2 dose's copper level ok and fish ok except tne regal which is just lying and not eating it has done that for days already lost a sailfin and trying not to lose any more. Ich looks like it has cleared up after just 2 dose's, should i be brave and carry on dosing for a couple more days or do a water change and leave them in the qt tank to see how they go and dose again if needed.

Already had a bad start to the year with a loss of 2 sharks ( different Tank ) and the salfin so trying to no lose any more.

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Jason.
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 07:58 PM

welcome to the site.
it will help if you list some info about your set up including water quality, tankmates, tank size and filtration equipment
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 08:47 PM

View Postben, on Jan 2 2010, 07:58 PM, said:

welcome to the site.
it will help if you list some info about your set up including water quality, tankmates, tank size and filtration equipment


Hi Ben,

The tank they were in (but know in a QT Tank) was a 6x2x1.5 FO tank with around 70ish kg LR, V2 1500 skimmer, sump, t5's and a fx5 with rowaphos,carbon and broken LR inside. This was ment to be a holding tank for my other tanks but it started to grow into a bit more than that.

Tank mates are 20ish blue/green chromis 1 sand star and 2 cleaner shrimp.

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:43 PM

Hey,

I would check copper levels, they should be at about 0.12-0.15 mg/l maximum and should be maintained there for about three weeks or so to completely rid the fish of the whitespot parasite. You need to look to a cause of the inital disease, badly quarantined fish, aquarium maturity and nutrition are all possible causes. regal and orange shoulder tangs, if healthy should easily shake off a bit of the spot!

Broken live rock does not make good biomedia in a pressurised external filter i would remove this and allow the live rock in the aquarium to do most of the work supplemented with a standard biomedia

HTH

Tom

As an aside, an explanation of a badly quarantined fish is a fish that hasnt been conditioned appropriately with various foods, supplements and only necessary treatments. All tangs are incredibly prone to flukes. these should be dealth with before adding the fish to the aquarium using either flubenol or praziquantal based drugs. Copper use should be minimised, and diet should be carefully looked at, a fish not eating a certain type of food that it needs must not be added to a display tank until it is. Usually such fish do not improve with live rock to occupy them.
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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:51 PM

View Posttommo, on Jan 2 2010, 11:43 PM, said:

I would check copper levels, they should be at about 0.12-0.15 mg/l maximum and should be maintained there for about three weeks or so to completely rid the fish of the whitespot parasite. You need to look to a cause of the inital disease, badly quarantined fish, aquarium maturity and nutrition are all possible causes. regal and orange shoulder tangs, if healthy should easily shake off a bit of the spot!

Broken live rock does not make good biomedia in a pressurised external filter i would remove this and allow the live rock in the aquarium to do most of the work supplemented with a standard biomedia

HTH

Tom


Hi Tommo,

Thanks for that i know the problem it was me!!!. newley imported fish, midnight and not thinking like i said it has going to be a holding tank but they should have gone into the QT Tanks but i made a mistake and i amit it.


the question is though cuprazin say's sto dosing when symptoms have gone?? or dose for 10 days?? also any idea how i can get the Regal to eat again as it used to eat like a pig its about 8-9 inch's and was a nice shape.

Thanks Again

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Posted 02 January 2010 - 11:56 PM

Whether you stop dosing, depends on your copper levels as above. Often using an additive with vitamin B12 in such as TMC lipovit/ immuvit combo on something rich like krill or mysis will really help appetance. Copper itself can put fish off food but they soon adapt to its presence.

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Tom
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