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Sump gone techno, not eco

#1 User is offline   Marcus Watts 

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 09:15 AM

Over the last few weeks I've felt the sump was not performing, wasting electric and wasting space so yesterday the whole lot got pulled apart and rebuilt.

My tank is 5ft, 400 litres and stocked heavilly and fed very heavily - so lots of waste - skimmer rated for tanks to 1600 litre but pulls a litre+ of skim per 24hrs

old sump was 'traditional' 4 chambers, sand, cheato, caulapera, 24hr lighting etc. -
Due to a mature biopellet reactor and very effective skimmer the algaes lived perfectly but never did any substancial growing so basically I considered it a waste of 2 chambers and the lights.

1)out with a razor blade and all chambers were removed from the sump, all sand, algae etc removed.

2)Uv set up as gravity feed from tanks second overflow pipe (the lower flow surface one)

3)Biopellet reactor T'd from main tank down pipe - 1 inch feed so very high flow, mass fluidising, pellet effluent feed directly to skimmer inlet - going to increase biopellets today to 1.4 litres.

4)Kalc stirrer removed, - going to turn it into an auto hatcher / feeder of live foods

5) calcium reactor installed, ph probes etc. a small feed pipe T'd off a little pump that is currently feeding a rowaphos reactor. (going to consider running calcium reactor from a good quality peristatic pump though having seen Simon G's advce I found on an old thread on UR)

6) 200 micron filter sock on main pipes (as before)

7) 12-15 oysters going in sump - been using a few and very impressed - 48p each and each one syphons 5 gallon of water a day

I expect the phos reactor will be removed soon - considering filling it with dolomite or something very magnesium rich and putting calcium reactor outlet through it - a kind of mag boosting degassing chamber

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Skimmer loves it - a larger volumne to work on and the biopellet effluent too - interesting thing the temp rose 1 degree in sump having been stable for 4 months, so heaters have been turned back - even more lecky saved haha
Initial observations 24hrs later - very happy, some visible stringy brown algae gone from 2 seafans (it was reappearing each time i blew it off), torches Huge, acans plumper than before and many corals polyped / feeder tenticles out all the time.

I think 4 or 5ft of solid cheato with awesome lighting (TMC aquagrow plant led tiles are the way to go imo) would have done a similar thing but I never had that much room and i llike the quieter dark sump as its right by the sofa
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 09:36 AM

Looks good Marcus.

How often do you clean the quartz sleeve on the UV? the reason for asking, am I right in thinking that water passing through it should be filtered and clean?

What's the flow rate going through the biopellet reactor?
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 04:23 PM

hi m8,

just measured and i'm putting my full system volume through the pellets every 40 minutes, so 36 times per day turnover. I used to trickle through them, letting them build into a solid ball of bacteria mulm and pellets and take all day to put the tank through the pellets once but waste is created fast in my tank so i wanted it passing over the filtration fast.

flow through sump is now 15 times the tank volume per hour, skimmer capacity is very high - it is rated for 6 times the total volume i have and i prefer a wettish skim that is taking nearly 2 gallons (7litres atm) of crud a week, not that light in colour either.

the plan is to strip the uv down after 10 weeks to see what the build up is like, I'm thinking algae and most life will be dead/killed in the tube because of the uv light so it will be interesting to see what is in there.


first attempt ! next on will have mood music !!! :lol: :) ;)
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Posted 23 May 2010 - 05:29 PM

Nice video & looks like a VERY nice skimmer :) Been thinking of upgrading our deltec TS1060s to one of those especially with the amount of food that goes in the tank these days. How have you been finding it's performance? Also like the idea of the oysters - do you get them from the supermarket or are you one of those lucky buggers who live by the sea?

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 08:36 PM

I agree there, nice skimmer.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 05:27 AM

View PostAcanQueen, on May 23 2010, 06:29 PM, said:

Nice video & looks like a VERY nice skimmer :D Been thinking of upgrading our deltec TS1060s to one of those especially with the amount of food that goes in the tank these days. How have you been finding it's performance? Also like the idea of the oysters - do you get them from the supermarket or are you one of those lucky buggers who live by the sea?

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hi Sharon,

thanks for the comments. I cant fault the skimmer in any way, adjustment is very easy, it pulls out a lot muck and is acceptably quiet.

We do live close to the sea but the oysters I use are from Tesco or Morrisons as they are a farmed pacific species that can cope with our tank temps and they have been flushed though a UV treated system so no nasty bacteria. On average they are 50p each and need slowly bringing up to temp as they have been in fridges or on ice!!.
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 06:45 AM

Hi marcus,

What sort of phosphate and nitrate levels did you have before the change over and have they changed yet? When y'all started using the biopellets it appeared to upset your skimmers, what's happened on this front?

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 05:07 PM

View Postchriss, on May 26 2010, 07:45 AM, said:

Hi marcus,

What sort of phosphate and nitrate levels did you have before the change over and have they changed yet? When y'all started using the biopellets it appeared to upset your skimmers, what's happened on this front?

Cheers

Chris


Hi chris,
I put the biopellets straight onto the new tank so dont really have any records of the tank levels before hand.

Skimmer wise the litre of biopellets I first bought had a mixtre of the original 'pillow' shaped ones and about 15% dense square boxy ones. These boxy looking pellets certainly seemed to be the cause of the skimmers not producing any froth for days on end, then mine used to produce a black stinky gunge for a day then die down for a week or so again.

I removed the square ones and the skimmer went into froth overdrive.(but I had sed sgar to seperate them and had a huge bio bloom in the tank) Last week I added another 500ml of pellets (all were pillow shaped and fluidise normally) and the new skimmer never missed a beat - it just keeps giving a litre of skimmate a day. I now have 1.3 litres of pellets on 420 litres of total water in the system, they are on a relatively high flow and I'm very happy with the way they are behaving.

Before ditching the tradiotional cheatp & sand sump I was iro 3-5ppm Nitrate and 0.04 or less phos.I'll give it a complete week and see what changes there are in water params, but if they stay the same with all the extra food I'm adding that will be fine
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